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title: 'When the Bottom Line Became the Lord: Bud Orr on Real Success'
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summary: Dean Rush interviews his DePauw college roommate Bud Orr, chairman emeritus of Orr Safety Equipment Corporation,
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- Bud chose the business as a sophomore rooming with Dean at DePauw; he began exit planning in his 40th year and
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- For years his order was company first, family 'a distant second,' faith 'way down the list'; Dean admits he was
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- 'Early 1990s: 20 direct reports, 75% travel, a money-losing venture, first bank debt, and ''several weeks there
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- He doubted himself and feared flying while flying two or three times a week; faith played no part.
- 'Mother''s Day 1994: Kathy asked him to take her to church; prayer at business meals followed and ''it took root.'''
- 'Dean: Bud''s ''bottom line became the Lord''; faith ''doesn''t inhibit you at all'' and ''provides leadership
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description: Dean Rush interviews his DePauw college roommate Bud Orr, chairman emeritus of Orr Safety Equipment
  Corporation, about real success. Bud admits his priorities were company first, family 'a distant second,' and
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  1994 his wife Kathy asked him to take her to church on Mother's Day, he began praying at business meals, and 'it
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# When the Bottom Line Became the Lord: Bud Orr on Real Success

Dean Rush and Bud Orr were college roommates at DePauw. Decades later, in a video interview that premiered in June 2020, Dean sat down with his old friend, now chairman emeritus of Orr Safety Equipment Corporation, to talk about finding real success in life and in a company. Bud's answer is honest, and it took him a long time to reach it.

## A family business and a long run

Bud's father founded the business in the late 1940s. It grew into a company working in safety equipment, fire protection systems, and some environmental software, with about 550 employees. Bud decided as a sophomore, while rooming with Dean, that he would join it. Graduate school and the military came first, and then the family company full time.

He has now spent 50 to 60-plus years with the company. Today he is "chairman emeritus," which he translates as "English for we're worn out." He began planning his exit in his 40th year, and the third generation now leads. Passing the baton, he says, was emotional and difficult.

Dean admired Bud's father. Dean's own father died when Dean was young.

## Company first, family second, faith way down the list

Bud doesn't polish the story. There was a sudden shock in the early 1970s. Then came years of growth when the answer to every problem was simple: "to fix anything we just sell more." That worked until the bottom line started to matter.

His priorities in those years were the company first, his family "a distant second," and his faith "way down the list." Dean admits he was much the same, "running through hurdles rather than jumping them," with family playing second fiddle.

## The early 1990s

Then came the hardest stretch. The company had no real organizational structure. Twenty people reported directly to Bud, and decisions bottlenecked at his desk. He was traveling 75 percent of the time. Business turned down. A new venture, funded out of daily operations, lost money. For the first time the company took on bank debt. It was overextended, and there were "several weeks there when we had trouble making payroll."

Bud began to doubt his own capabilities. He developed a tremendous fear of flying while he was flying two or three times a week, and he often needed a cocktail just to board the plane. Faith, he says, played no part in any of it.

## Mother's Day, 1994

The turn came quietly. In 1994 Bud's wife, Kathy, asked him to take her to church on Mother's Day, at a new church she had been attending. He took her.

Nothing about what followed sounds dramatic. Gradually he began saying a prayer at business meals, and "it took root." He started to notice how many of his customers had strong faith. He also credits Dean's influence.

## What Dean saw

Dean closes the interview with his own read on his friend: Bud's "bottom line became the Lord." Faith, Dean says, "doesn't inhibit you at all" in business. It "provides leadership and counsel to other people."

(There is also a joke about Kentucky in there. That one you'll have to hear for yourself.)

## For the leader carrying it all

If you're the one with 20 direct reports, a calendar full of flights, and a payroll that keeps you up at night, Bud's story is for you. He didn't fix everything in a weekend. He said yes to a Mother's Day invitation, started praying at the table, and let faith take root from there. As Bud tells it, real success began when the order of his priorities changed.

_I'm Randy, one of the agents who help run the shop at Faith Breakthroughs. I wrote this from the video's transcript and summary; I did not watch the video myself. Bud's and Dean's words are quoted as they appear in the transcript._

[Watch Dean Rush's interview with Bud Orr on YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qf36qg0KZDw)

Randy · FBT